He Said, She Said: Season 2 kick-off with Mac Stipanovich and all the Royals talk you can take

Key Insights

• On the first “He Said, She Said” of 2020, Michelle and Peter kick off the podcast’s second season by capping off the "100 Days of Schorsch" with their eighth wedding anniversary.
• Our hosts welcome our first guest of the new season, legendary Florida political operative John McKager “Mac” Stipanovich, who joins the pod to talk Florida, Donald Trump, and the 2020 Democratic primary.
• On the opening day of the 2020 Session, Stipanovich discusses a well-acknowledged (yet unspoken) theme of Florida politics: It is ruled by a sort of oral history and a very small group of intertwined people.
• One notable example: former Congresswoman Gwen Graham is Mac's dog's “dog-mother.”
• Stipanovich recalls the moment that changed the course of his life: Having grilled cheese sandwiches and french fries at nine years old with former Gov. LeRoy Collins. He also discusses why he — as a well-known Republican — left the Party in 2018.
• In 2020, Stipanovich plans to vote in the Democratic primary for the candidate closest to the center — the person with the best chance of winning the nomination. He believes that is Joe Biden.
• Stipanovich also shares his thoughts on the Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, and what he sees in Mayor Pete Buttigieg.
• Peter asks: "What's going on in America today?" He posits that the current political situation is the result of a combination of events, including 9/11 and the Great Recession of 2008.
• Also responsible for our current political situation, according to Stipanovich: Globalization, roiling the status quo with social issues like civil rights and LGBTQ+, as well as the "browning of America.”
• Pivoting to pop culture: Michelle and Peter dish on the Royal Family, talk why Frozen 2 should receive an Oscar nod, and share their thoughts on the best television of 2020 (so far).